Random Food Thoughts

[captwhiffle]

I have a legal question. I post it here because it has to do with food.
For a few years now I have been watching the cooking show "America's Test Kitchen", where the staff tinker with recipes until they get the "perfect" version of it. Until recently, the host of the show was Chris Kimball. He left about a year ago to start a quite similar show called Milk Street Kitchen. I signed up on their email list for weekly missives.

The latest one came this morning with a piece on how to make the perfect grilled hamburger. The interesting thing is, it is EXACTLY the recipe he and the staff of ATK developed/presented a few years ago. Same recommendations for meat to use, shaping, seasoning, grilling, etc. Now, since he was the host of the old show, he might think that he "owns" the recipe (although I doubt he helped develop it- that is left to the test cooks), but that seems very much like taking corporate information from a previous employer and giving it to your new one. Highly unethical, in my opinion.

It seems to me that ATK would have good legal standing to sue Milk Street Kitchen for using their recipes and presenting them as their own. What do you think?

Christ Kimball drives me bananas. He's smug, dogmatic, and dripping with entitlement. I couldn't bear his folksy (fauxsy?) I-just-helped-my-neighbors-slaughter-their-grass-fed-steer-'cause-that's-how-we-kith-and-kin-Vermonters-do-it columns in Cook's Illustrated. Each one was simply a tired variation of the same tedious regionalism. Now that he's gone, the ATK folks seem much more adventuresome with their recipes, and there are many more vegetarian options in their publications, as well. The hosts of ATK seem to be having a lot more fun now that they're out from under his dour rule.

Have you seen this announcement from last fall?

https://whywearesuingchristopherkim...407655731|pkw|chris kimball|pmt|e|&productid=

 

[Nickyboy]

Christ Kimball drives me bananas. He's smug, dogmatic, and dripping with entitlement. I couldn't bear his folksy (fauxsy?) I-just-helped-my-neighbors-slaughter-their-grass-fed-steer-'cause-that's-how-we-kith-and-kin-Vermonters-do-it columns in Cook's Illustrated. Each one was simply a tired variation of the same tedious regionalism. Now that he's gone, the ATK folks seem much more adventuresome with their recipes, and there are many more vegetarian options in their publications, as well. The hosts of ATK seem to be having a lot more fun now that they're out from under his dour rule.

Have you seen this announcement from last fall?

https://whywearesuingchristopherkimball.com/?&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Competition+-+Milk+Street+Kitchen+-+Exact&utm_term=chris kimball&utm_content=ssFVTyZIh_dc|pcrid|156407655731|pkw|chris kimball|pmt|e|&productid=

Agreed on all counts.
I had forgotten about the lawsuit, but it addresses my question directly. I wonder where that whole thing stands today.

 

[Worm]

I wish that cherry and vidalia onion seasons lasted a bit longer than they do.

 

[Nickyboy]

The best BBQ joints in each state: http://www.foodandwine.com/syndicat..._medium=social&xid=soc_socialflow_facebook_fw

The one in RI is actually fairly new, and I haven't had a chance to try it. That said, it is going to have to be absolutely amazing if it's better than Binge BBQ in Newport: https://bingebbqri.com/ This is the stuff dreams are made of.

 

[Mattafett]

The best BBQ joints in each state: http://www.foodandwine.com/syndicat..._medium=social&xid=soc_socialflow_facebook_fw

The one in RI is actually fairly new, and I haven't had a chance to try it. That said, it is going to have to be absolutely amazing if it's better than Binge BBQ in Newport: https://bingebbqri.com/ This is the stuff dreams are made of.

There is no way I can take this list seriously. I've never been to the Iowa restaurant and if this is the first time this place has ever been mentioned on any sort of list ever.
Furthermore the place in Missouri I've never heard of either. And I have traveled specifically to Missouri just to eat barbecue. When you're in St. Louis you go to Pappys because it defines the style. Also located in Missouri is both Arthur Bryants as well as Gates in Kansas City. It is a tossup between those two depending on the day. Both of those places defined the Kansas City style.

 

[Nickyboy]

^ Yeah, I always take any "best in your state" lists with a heavy dose of skepticism. Who are they asking?

 

[Nickyboy]

In "n Out Burger just opened a shop in Zurich, Switzerland. HEY!! How about on the East Coast before you cross the Atlantic!!/?!11?

 

[Mattafett]

In "n Out Burger just opened a shop in Zurich, Switzerland. HEY!! How about on the East Coast before you cross the Atlantic!!/?!11?

Maybe a stop in the Midwest???

 

[Nickyboy]

Maybe a stop in the Midwest???

Burgers everywhere! >hammer guy<

 

[Unsomnambulist]

I Tried Soylent. It Didn’t Go Well.

http://www.everywhereist.com/i-tried-soylent-it-didnt-go-well/

 

[Worm]

I Tried Soylent. It Didn’t Go Well.

http://www.everywhereist.com/i-tried-soylent-it-didnt-go-well/

Fun read.

 

[Nickyboy]

Yes, fruitcake does keep for a long time: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/13/...a-scott.html&eventName=Watching-article-click

I actually have a brandy soaked one that has been aging for 3 years now. I don't think I will age it as long as Scott's.

 

[Nickyboy]

I have cousins coming to visit America for the first time in their lives this week. They said they want to try lobster. I am glad to oblige!!

 

[Mattafett]

Ate some fair food yesterday.
Polish sausage with grilled onions and peppers.
Pretty sure it was just a nicer hot dog, as it didn't taste like polish sausage. Good, but disappointing.

Double bacon corn dog.
Hot dog wrapped in bacon, lightly fried. Dipped in bacon corn meal, fried again. Served with maple syrup and bacon bits. As good as it sounds.

 

[Nickyboy]

Double bacon corn dog.
Hot dog wrapped in bacon, lightly fried. Dipped in bacon corn meal, fried again. Served with maple syrup and bacon bits. As good as it sounds.

Yes, please.

 

[Zeeba Neighba]

From the AV Club:
Why Have Americans stopped eating Turtle?

http://www.avclub.com/article/why-have-americans-stopped-eating-turtle-259651

 

[Unsomnambulist]

From the AV Club:
Why Have Americans stopped eating Turtle?

http://www.avclub.com/article/why-have-americans-stopped-eating-turtle-259651

Because we anthropomorphize turtles way too much, in cartoons, etc.?

 

[Nickyboy]

It's turtles all the way down to my table.

 

[Zeeba Neighba]

I found the history lesson fascinating - interesting how, since Madeira and sherry were used in turtle soup, prohibition contributed to a decline in turtle consumption....Hoover chicken - ha!
Also found it interesting that, since turtles reproduce slowly, how fishing for tons of them, eventually caused a decline in turtle populations (and thus, again, consumption) - (don't we have a bespectacled geek emoji?)

The article was just full of historical goodies

Then I read how mock turtle soup was made...ewww

 

[Nickyboy]

I found the history lesson fascinating - interesting how, since Madeira and sherry were used in turtle soup, prohibition contributed to a decline in turtle consumption....Hoover chicken - ha!
Also found it interesting that, since turtles reproduce slowly, how fishing for tons of them, eventually caused a decline in turtle populations (and thus, again, consumption) - (don't we have a bespectacled geek emoji?)

The article was just full of historical goodies

Then I read how mock turtle soup was made...ewww

The crew of the Beagle (Charles Darwin tagged along) loaded their ship with the giant tortoises they found on the Galapagos Islands as ballast. Guess what? They discovered that the meat was delicious. Not a single tortoise made it back to England alive.